37 replies to this topic

[likwid_dzign]

I just want to hear what peoples thoughts and experiences are with either LS1edit or VCM-Suite?

I realise a lot comes done to the tuner doing the work but you hear so many people blowing the horn for each it really comes down to a flip of the coin in making a decision!?

I'm coming up to deciding on which direction to go with my LS1 VZ auto ute in the Cairns region but I open this up to everyone for their opinions...

Edited by likwid_dzign, 05 March 2008 - 08:36 PM.

[Яedrum]

hey mate, i called up Cairns Dyno tune or leading automotive the other day, (i cnt remember) and asked for a quote for an LS1 edit, and he gav me a quote and said btw we do VCM suite which is the same thing, so now im confused cuz i thought they were different, i was just going to do an OTR mafless intake, then VCM suite all up around $2000, depends on which OTR you buy, but i like the $500 one.

[caprice]

I would go a oztrack mail order tune,very well priced,a guy in tsv ran a 13.4 in an auto clubsport with one of his tunes,3.46 gears,OTR & 25% UDP.
check out http://www.oztracktuning.com/

[SS_Brute]

LS1 Edit was the original program for tuning for these motors and has now become a sort of brand name (but now outdated). HP Tuners/EFI Live
and VCM Suite is the most common and up to date form of tuning the LSx motors. OZ Track does have a good reputation for mail order tunes and would possible be a good alternative for basic mods. All of which are better than the emulation process that was used for my ute back in early 2003 for my cam and heads before LS1 Edit was widely available!!!!!

[NJL]

From what I understood on Oz Tracks website is you basically tell them what mods you have and they send you back the required tune?

[caprice]

you tell him your mods,he will send you a pcm with appropriate tune $600,you send your old one back & get $150 back,only costing you $450 & no down time.cam tunes are a little more expensive.

[B1!]

mate in my opinion i wouldnt waste your time with a male order tune from wat i have heard from mates that have had them done they are crap. the guy that tunes my car only cost me $1000 and i can change my programme wen i want for nothing and he is pretty good cleaned up the shit tune that was in it, better, more personal service and he doesnt work from a shop either

[TTCV8]

lve got EFI LIVE tuning on mine l think there pretty much same same and it all goes back to the skills of your tuner in the end
Mail orders OK if you got a stock motor or modified to suit the tune but l dont think they compare to a EFI/VCM tune on a dyno by a good tuner

[B1!]

lve got EFI LIVE tuning on mine l think there pretty much same same and it all goes back to the skills of your tuner in the end
Mail orders OK if you got a stock motor or modified to suit the tune but l dont think they compare to a EFI/VCM tune on a dyno by a good tuner

yeah mate true, my pig has had a bit of work done to it so it would be harder to fine tune that way, i use efi live, pretty slow and tedious to tune but its worth it at the end

[NJL]

who would you guys recommend up in cairns way?

[Benny]

Oztrack is going to do a mail order for my Calais in 2 weeks. I have had a chat to him on the phone, F*#king top bloke, he answered all the Noob questions I had. Ill report back how it goes. Good luck

Cheers
Ben

[Ganzer]

Oztrack is going to do a mail order for my Calais in 2 weeks. I have had a chat to him on the phone, F*#king top bloke, he answered all the Noob questions I had. Ill report back how it goes. Good luck

Cheers
Ben

How much is he charging you, and what mods have you done to your car?

thanks ganzer

[KTMR]

I use EFILIVE...
Mailorder tune is ok but you cannot beat a custom edit that's done on the chassis dyno!

[Benny]

Ganzer,
The mods to my car at this stage are
- Twin 2.5 inch into single 3 inch exhaust
- Two hole mod with MCAI.

At this stage he is charging me $450.

The reason I am going mail order are
- Its a daily driver, im not to concerned about getting every last KW out of it
- The price, I cant justfy an extra $500 for a tune locally.
- An oztrack mailorder tuned cars have the numbers on the board already.

Cheers
Ben

[NJL]

would definately be interested to see how this works out for you mate, keep us posted

[Benny]

Correction to my last post the cost is $400. My PCM is being sent off on the 20th of March.

After chatting to Steve from Oztrack he informs me this will be a mafless tune.

Once the pcm returns, ill be happy to take anyone for a spin!.

Cheers
Ben

[Micko]

keep us posted mate

[KTMR]

The reason I am going mail order are
- Its a daily driver, im not to concerned about getting every last KW out of it
- The price, I cant justfy an extra $500 for a tune locally.
- An oztrack mailorder tuned cars have the numbers on the board already.

Cheers
Ben

Custom "on the dyno" editing is not all about just getting every last rwkw out of it, but also
tailoring the fueling and timing maps to get the best throughout the operating range for a
particular vehicle.
We look at things like idle quality, part throttle driveability, cruise fuel consumption as well as peak power.

There is nothing fundamentally wrong with Steve's tunes, and I'm sure he will agree that
some amount of tailoring to one of his mail order tunes will usually net better results.
Not because he cannot tune, but because in the real world there are many variables that come into play
making each vehicle unique.

The difference in cost is usually the dyno time required to make sure the tune you have is
suited to your particular vehicle.
In the case of tunes; as with shoes, one size doesn't fit all.

If money is the issue, then I would recommend an Oztrack tune over any other mail order as his tunes will be about right and not too far off the mark in most cases.

[Hammer]

have a look for Ls1Turbo, they have numbers on the board as well

[Benny]

Well the PCM is back and its in. My thoughts are, why did I wait this long to tune it!, Ive only taken it for a short drive and im in love!.

Next mod will be a OTRCAI. I might take it to one of the local dyno places and see what numbers it does soon.

I could not recommend Oztrack any more highly.

Cheers
Ben