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[sinister]

To make it a little easier for people to find legislation regarding modifications or what they can and can't do legally I have made this topic.....

If you have questions about legislation or what is legal and what isn't please post a direct and detailed explanation of what you would like to know.

If you have further articles you think may be useful let me know and I will add them to this post.

National Stationary Exhaust Noise Test Procedures for In-Service Motor Vehicles
 NatStatExhaustNoiseTestSept2006.pdf   388.48K   64 downloads

Transport Operations (Road Use Management—Vehicle Standards and Safety) Regulation 1999
 TrantOpRUVSSR99.pdf   857.58K   60 downloads

VEHICLE IDENTIFICATION AND ENGINE NUMBER LOCATION CHART SYSTEM
 amvcb_new.pdf   1.47MB   35 downloads

[jlord16]

Here's another few. CBF making pretty links or downloads like yours Matt. Feel free to edit my post

Light vehicle modifications
http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/resources/...r_vehicles2.pdf

Second Edition ADRs (applying to vehicles manufactured from 1969 to 1989)
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/mot...ition_adrs.aspx

Third Edition ADRs (applying to vehicles manufactured from 2 August 1989)
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/mot...adr_online.aspx

Motor Vehicle Standards Act 1989
http://www.comlaw.gov.au/ComLaw/Legislatio...andards1989.pdf

Motor Vehicle Standards Regulations 1989
http://www.comlaw.gov.au/ComLaw/Legislatio...nds1989WD02.pdf

Edited by jlord16, 17 December 2008 - 10:16 PM.

[sinister]

Police powers & responsibilities....

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/qld/con...0365/index.html

[journeymanMick]

jlord16, on 17 December 2008 - 10:03 PM, said:

Here's another few. CBF making pretty links or downloads like yours Matt. Feel free to edit my post

Light vehicle modifications
http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/resources/...r_vehicles2.pdf

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I followed the above link but it only brings up a transport department home page. I haven't played much with cars for the last 15 years or so and have just started dabbling again. Is it possible to get a car blue plated if it's had a turbo fitted and that model never came with a turbo?

Mick

[Privatealpha]

Yes you can.
You need to get an emissions test done which is about $80.
Then you need a dyno print out for power output. Do a conservative tune at low boost so you get good emissions and low power. Thats about $100
Then a road worthy type look over, hope that everything else is ok. $60-$100
Then if everything passes, you move on to blue plates, which is generally $100-120 per code. A code is each modification.

I went through a similar process with a supercharged corolla.
Cost me about $500 for compliance.
Would have been $400, but somehow they found out i had a different gearbox and upgraded brakes, and so slapped another code on.

[jlord16]

Hey Mick

The post I made is 2years old now so Id say that they have moved the document since their latest website upgrade
The link I gave only covers minor modifications that don't require approval or engineering
Here is the updated link for future reference
http://www.tmr.qld.g...r_vehicles2.pdf

And here is the section on Light Vehicle Modifications and the Code of Practice for Complex Modifications requiring approval
http://www.tmr.qld.g...ifications.aspx

PrivateAlpha is spot on with that breakdown from memory

Your best bet would be to call one of your local Authorized Vehicle Engineers and confirm with them

Edited by jlord16, 08 December 2010 - 07:46 PM.

[journeymanMick]

Okay, thanks for that. At least I know where to start now (if I start).

Mick

[nemo115]

Hey, these are good, thanks for posting!

[Simon Kaine]

I have been searching online for the past two hours for info on this, so here it goes.
I got hit with a ticket this morning for "Willfully make excessive noise by manner of operation" code 2297 penalty is $320 and the officer said three points, apparently the legislation pertaining to this is under "the Transport Operations (Road Use Management) Act 1995" however, I can't find any information in said act that pertains to engine noise, any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
If not, oh well.

[shaun]

Simon Kaine, on 20 February 2011 - 06:30 AM, said:

I have been searching online for the past two hours for info on this, so here it goes.
I got hit with a ticket this morning for "Willfully make excessive noise by manner of operation" code 2297 penalty is $320 and the officer said three points, apparently the legislation pertaining to this is under "the Transport Operations (Road Use Management) Act 1995" however, I can't find any information in said act that pertains to engine noise, any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
If not, oh well.

Was it issued for doing a skid or stereo to loud?
Try the PPRA (police powers and responibilities act) has pretty much everything you can be booked for.

PPRA

Paragraph 580 onwards deals with excessive noise from a motor vehicle on a road.

If it was for a skid your lucky they didn't do you for hooning and take your car. If its for stereo or exhaust you should have been issued a noise abatement direction or defect notice.

Any way hope that helps personally if it was for anything other than a burnout/ 'hooning' type crap I would take it to court and fight it out, worst case youll have to pay the fine plus 90 odd bucks for court fees? But if you read up on the act enough you should be able to find a way out. Or just go see a laywer.

cheers shaun

[shaun]

Also here is a link to the current in force acts and legislation. Its the search page and has them all

QLD legislation

[Simon Kaine]

Neither exhaust nor sound system and I wasn't skidding or the like, I was booked for engine noise, specifically "willfully make excessive noise by operation of motor vehicle" and under speciffics "excessive acceleration and engine noise" tbh I think it is a load of crap and I will be seeing my lawyer, for the record my car is bulk standard bar the sound system, and even that is not loud enough to get through the vehicle sound proofing., but thanks for the links, I can read more up on the subject.

Edited by Simon Kaine, 20 February 2011 - 01:29 PM.

[hungrylux]

i have a 84 mod 2x4 hilux and want to install air ride suspension and put nice rims on it, my question is where in QLD can i get a blue plate for a street registered hilux for these "mods". I have been told because my hilux has a 1 tonne GVM i cant put the 20 inch rims i want on it so please if you can help id love to have my lux low but raise it while i drive so i don't attract attention my paint job and p plate does that already.

[nelpd96]

Mate the issue won't be the rims as such it will be the fact that you can't get tires in that size with the correct load rating.

[hungrylux]

nelpd96, on 28 March 2011 - 01:08 PM, said:

Mate the issue won't be the rims as such it will be the fact that you can't get tires in that size with the correct load rating.

yea but a copper done me because both my rims and tires weren't load rated so is there any blue plate i can get and if so, where can i get it from

[journeymanMick]

hungrylux, on 28 March 2011 - 02:47 PM, said:

nelpd96, on 28 March 2011 - 01:08 PM, said:

Mate the issue won't be the rims as such it will be the fact that you can't get tires in that size with the correct load rating.

yea but a copper done me because both my rims and tires weren't load rated so is there any blue plate i can get and if so, where can i get it from

AFAIK you need to get the springs derated (ie leaf/leaves reomoved) for a lower load carrying capacity, that way you can use wheel/tyre combos that aren't rated as high.

Mick

[hungrylux]

ok thanks but i want to get rid of the springs altogether and replace it with complete Independent airbags but i would like to know where in qld would i get a blue modification plate

[Me_3]

hungrylux, on 29 March 2011 - 08:52 AM, said:

ok thanks but i want to get rid of the springs altogether and replace it with complete Independent airbags but i would like to know where in qld would i get a blue modification plate

Why not just ring around some workshops and ask.. or even more scarey option, ring QLD Transport and ask who in the cairns area does that mod plate... they will give you a list of places that can approve it!

You then ring those shops, and find one your happy with using...

[hungrylux]

thanks

[Me_3]

Given there has been a few posts asking about airbags, with lots of wrong info being given out, i'll post the correct info for all to read..

No reason airbags can't be made legal..

Straight from the QLD Transport modification hand book....

Quote

Lowering or raising of vehicles
The road clearance of a fully laden vehicle must not be
less than 100mm measured at any part of the vehicle
other than the wheel rim or brake backing plates.
(This does not apply where a lesser clearance has been
specified by the manufacturer.)

When lowering or raising a vehicle body (front or rear),
the following additional restrictions are based on the
manufacturer's dimensions for the standard unmodified
vehicle while unladen:

• The ride height measured between the rubber bump
stop and the corresponding metal stop may be reduced
by no more than one third.

• The rebound travel measured between the rubber
rebound stop and the corresponding metal stop
(or the extension of the shock absorber for vehicles
without a rebound stop) may be reduced by no
more than one third.

• Coil springs are to remain in locating seats on full
suspension droop without forcibly being removed.

In addition, the normal relationship between the front
and rear suspension heights must not be unduly affected.

Replacement springs (shorter or taller) must have the
same or greater load capacity as the original springs.

Suspension coil springs must not be shortened by cutting
or heating. Leaf spring suspensions must not be raised
by the use of extended shackles, adjustable metal plates
or by placing the leaf springs to the opposite side of the
axle. If lowering blocks are used, they must be either
steel or aluminium.

Airbag or air pressurised shock absorber helper springs
may be fitted in addition to the original suspension.

However, replacing some or all of the suspension system
with an air or hydraulic suspension requires specific
approval.

You need a mod plate.. Thats all.... (And to comply with the rules)

Don't beleive me? Go have a read here : http://www.tmr.qld.g...ifications.aspx

Page 5 of the modifications guide.


They CAN & WILL Defect you if you have illegal suspension & chasis modifications, which is what a lot of people do when they install straight bags without getting the proper approvals & doing the job properly. But if you are willing to work with an approved engineer there is no reason that pure airbags could not be made legal..

The amount of bullcrap getting about reguarding modifications not being possible, not legal, or whatever is just amazing.. Do people even bother to read the modification guidelines? or even asking the guys who engineer & approve this stuff?

Some more light reading if your actually serious about doing airbags: http://www.tmr.qld.g...difications.pdf