After hearing about all the shenanigans by police during the ingham car show, I think we need somthing along the lines of a automotive law forum, where we can post links to various government pages to inform us of our rights when being combed by polices who seem intent on defecting our cars no matter what.
their obviously getting away with a lot here, in lieu of cracking down on hoons in anti-terrorism fashion, we enthusiasts are becoming the terrorized.
personally I'm getting sick of it, and it wont be long before more and more people start to snap, and really make a mincer of things with all the negative treatment.
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Started by Nemesis, Jun 01 2009 06:11 PM
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Posted 01 June 2009 - 06:11 PM
Only those who risk going too far, can ultimately find out how far one can go.
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Posted 01 June 2009 - 06:29 PM
http://www.legislation.qld.gov.au/
and search what ACT you wanna read up.. e.g the transport act to start with
and search what ACT you wanna read up.. e.g the transport act to start with
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Posted 01 June 2009 - 07:21 PM
I'm all for that one. . . Got some harrasment and fines, defects heading to ingham, knowing some of my rights saved me a couple of times during my encounter. .
"THE PATH OF THE GTI-R IS BESET WITH PERIL BY THE INJUSTICES OF THE SPEED CAMERA AND THE TYRANNY OF OTHER DRIVERS. BLESSED IS HE WHO OVERTAKES THE EVO & STI THROUGH THE VALLEY OF HAIRPIN TURNS, FOR HE IS TRULY HIS CAR'S TUNER AND THE FINDER OF LOST HORSEPOWER. . . AND WE SHALT STRIKE DOWN WITH GREAT BOOST AND FURIOUS ACCELERATION ON WHOEVER DOTH ATTEMPT TO OBSTRUCT OR DELAY OUR OVERTAKING. . .
AND YOU SHALT KNOW OUR NAME IS RNN14 WHEN WE LAY THY VEGENCE UPON THEE."
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Posted 01 June 2009 - 08:40 PM
+1 for new section.
Fabz, on 27 April 2010 - 11:01 PM, said:
I bet its a VP V10 blown twin over head dick fingerers with full drag spec drive line ans supersonic windscreen wipers. Be sure to check under the seat for some pirate gold as i hear these cars are THAT rare.
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shut the f**K up. i dont care. ACA, 60 minutes, today tonight, i f**king hate you all so much i hope you die some kind of firey hell in the anus of the devil you pack of c**ts.
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Posted 01 June 2009 - 09:02 PM
The problem is knowing if it is accurate or hearsay. Plenty of people have their "opinions" on the law or what their rights are but are incorrect. Ideally it'd be good to have someone from the insanely over funded hoon department spend an hour on here each day answering questions.
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Posted 01 June 2009 - 09:07 PM
hear says half the fun.
but its still better having alot of people looking through government websites for info then just one each time someones got a problem, last time i looked i couldnt find shit simpley because i didnt know where to look.
but its still better having alot of people looking through government websites for info then just one each time someones got a problem, last time i looked i couldnt find shit simpley because i didnt know where to look.
Fabz, on 27 April 2010 - 11:01 PM, said:
I bet its a VP V10 blown twin over head dick fingerers with full drag spec drive line ans supersonic windscreen wipers. Be sure to check under the seat for some pirate gold as i hear these cars are THAT rare.
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shut the f**K up. i dont care. ACA, 60 minutes, today tonight, i f**king hate you all so much i hope you die some kind of firey hell in the anus of the devil you pack of c**ts.
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Posted 01 June 2009 - 09:17 PM
QUOTE (sinister @ Jun 1 2009, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The problem is knowing if it is accurate or hearsay. Plenty of people have their "opinions" on the law or what their rights are but are incorrect. Ideally it'd be good to have someone from the insanely over funded hoon department spend an hour on here each day answering questions.
That is exactly right. The thread would turn into a shit fight, i know for a fact that cops have double standards, some turn a blind eye and others pineapple you, it is unfortunatly a problem that comes with having a modified car in queensland, the only way to do it is when (before doing it) modifying get access to all available information reguarding the type of modification that is being performed.
Even local cops do not know it all, no cop knows it all but traffic police are out there for one thing and that is to apparently get the unsafe cars off the road, but most of the time fines and defecting will be used as a revenue raising excercise.
f**k THE POLICE!! AND THERE CHILDISH APPROACH!, if they are serious they will be willing to communicate with the car scene rather then just punish EVERYONE with a non standard car, it has been happening more and more and there is nothing the truely innocent people can do.
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Posted 01 June 2009 - 09:25 PM
QUOTE (sinister @ Jun 1 2009, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The problem is knowing if it is accurate or hearsay. Plenty of people have their "opinions" on the law or what their rights are but are incorrect. Ideally it'd be good to have someone from the insanely over funded hoon department spend an hour on here each day answering questions.
QUOTE (Nemesis @ Jun 1 2009, 06:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think we need somthing along the lines of a automotive law forum, where we can post links to various government pages to inform us of our rights when being combed by polices who seem intent on defecting our cars no matter what.
Only those who risk going too far, can ultimately find out how far one can go.
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Posted 01 June 2009 - 09:29 PM
QUOTE (Nemesis @ Jun 1 2009, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (sinister @ Jun 1 2009, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The problem is knowing if it is accurate or hearsay. Plenty of people have their "opinions" on the law or what their rights are but are incorrect. Ideally it'd be good to have someone from the insanely over funded hoon department spend an hour on here each day answering questions.
QUOTE (Nemesis @ Jun 1 2009, 06:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think we need somthing along the lines of a automotive law forum, where we can post links to various government pages to inform us of our rights when being combed by polices who seem intent on defecting our cars no matter what.
In my opinion how you are suggesting is ideal, maybe if it was a strictly spam free thread with only links reguarding automotive mods and the like, anyone knows that 'HEAR SAY' is the biggest problem, having people posting up there mates mates mates info would not be on.
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Posted 01 June 2009 - 09:30 PM
QUOTE (Nemesis @ Jun 1 2009, 06:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
After hearing about all the shenanigans by police during the ingham car show, I think we need somthing along the lines of a automotive law forum, where we can post links to various government pages to inform us of our rights when being combed by polices who seem intent on defecting our cars no matter what.
Would there be a few people interested in getting such a collection of links & data together and perhaps putting it all in one thread to make it easy reference?
If they are links, and cut & pasted sections from valid websites, it should cut the infighting and bulls**** down a fair bit..
I know i've got a reasonable amount bookmarked & stored around the harddrive.. If there are a few other people interested, i'll make an effort to sort through it and post it somewhere..
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Posted 01 June 2009 - 09:33 PM
Sorry I didn't read correctly. Tired as bugger after Ingham and still trying to get all the footage to my computer.
There is a topic with links to legal articles for what you can and can't do etc. In the general section I believe and pinned.
http://www.qldstreetscene.com/forums/index...showtopic=14153
There is a topic with links to legal articles for what you can and can't do etc. In the general section I believe and pinned.
http://www.qldstreetscene.com/forums/index...showtopic=14153
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Posted 01 June 2009 - 09:42 PM
how about civil liberties, such as being fined for back chatting?
as I understand... people were being bullied by the police, arent they supposed to be calm and composed when dealing with the public, and converse in a respectable manner?
I witnessed plenty of the opposite on the day.
as I understand... people were being bullied by the police, arent they supposed to be calm and composed when dealing with the public, and converse in a respectable manner?
I witnessed plenty of the opposite on the day.
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Posted 01 June 2009 - 10:06 PM
Film it, today tonight and a current affair that shit. Everyone should film or record when they are pulled over too. And film DB testing
The guys going to think here's another kid using a fake ID or here's McLovin, the 25 year old Hawaiian organ donor. So what's it going to be? I am McLovin. No your not. No one's McLovin, McLovin's never existed because that's a made up, dumb, f**king fairy tale name you f**k
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Posted 02 June 2009 - 01:08 AM
what about something like they have a cruising mackay???
they have a thread in there that is upkept by a qld transport officer/police officer and u ask a question and they reply in good time.....
they have a thread in there that is upkept by a qld transport officer/police officer and u ask a question and they reply in good time.....
The Subaru Impreza is the Automotive equivalent of a decent prostitute.......They perform well, provide a good/thrilling ride but every f*ckers been there and done it already...
I don't like being told what to do, and when some aluminium cased box of gears and friction plates tells me that it's time to change up, I really get pissed off. I will decide when it's time to change gears and sometimes I'm right. So the old smarty-pants automatic transmission isn't my best friend
I don't like being told what to do, and when some aluminium cased box of gears and friction plates tells me that it's time to change up, I really get pissed off. I will decide when it's time to change gears and sometimes I'm right. So the old smarty-pants automatic transmission isn't my best friend
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Posted 02 June 2009 - 11:54 AM
You need someone in the know, that's willing to help out and do that sorta thing.
Would have to try and approach people about it
Would have to try and approach people about it
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Posted 02 June 2009 - 11:12 PM
yeah i agree with ya's dont get me wrong
But the law changes like the oh&s does how do you know who's right and who's wrong
But the law changes like the oh&s does how do you know who's right and who's wrong
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Posted 03 June 2009 - 08:56 AM
I think everyone needs to concentrate on making their cars legal first....
If you don't read this in every thread. I am probably banned.
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Posted 03 June 2009 - 06:47 PM
QUOTE (EL_661 @ Jun 3 2009, 08:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think everyone needs to concentrate on making their cars legal first....
Thats too hard.. I mean you need to actually READ what the rules are first.. Then make the car suit.. Its just easier to do it wrong, get defected, and bitch & moan about getting the defect.
Given the cost of a defect, and the cost of a mod plate... I know which is easier & cheaper!
I'll clean up all my modification notes, and post them for people who are interested in the next week.. might make it easier for those who think they know all to learn what the actual rules say rather than relying on info from somebodys friend of a friend who knows somebody...
Its not hard to build a legal performance car... but requires some thinking first.. and thats what stops a lot of people!
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Posted 03 June 2009 - 07:30 PM
Yeah, a thread with a cop on the other end would be good. .. we have some cops on the GTiR forum and they are pretty useful when it comes to Qs.
"THE PATH OF THE GTI-R IS BESET WITH PERIL BY THE INJUSTICES OF THE SPEED CAMERA AND THE TYRANNY OF OTHER DRIVERS. BLESSED IS HE WHO OVERTAKES THE EVO & STI THROUGH THE VALLEY OF HAIRPIN TURNS, FOR HE IS TRULY HIS CAR'S TUNER AND THE FINDER OF LOST HORSEPOWER. . . AND WE SHALT STRIKE DOWN WITH GREAT BOOST AND FURIOUS ACCELERATION ON WHOEVER DOTH ATTEMPT TO OBSTRUCT OR DELAY OUR OVERTAKING. . .
AND YOU SHALT KNOW OUR NAME IS RNN14 WHEN WE LAY THY VEGENCE UPON THEE."
Nissan RNN14 GTi-R Such An Obsession
God Created Turbo Lag To Give V8s A Chance..
mmm AWD Nothing But Traction . . .
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Posted 03 June 2009 - 09:13 PM
QUOTE (Me_3 @ Jun 3 2009, 06:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (EL_661 @ Jun 3 2009, 08:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think everyone needs to concentrate on making their cars legal first....
Thats too hard.. I mean you need to actually READ what the rules are first.. Then make the car suit.. Its just easier to do it wrong, get defected, and bitch & moan about getting the defect.
Given the cost of a defect, and the cost of a mod plate... I know which is easier & cheaper!
I'll clean up all my modification notes, and post them for people who are interested in the next week.. might make it easier for those who think they know all to learn what the actual rules say rather than relying on info from somebodys friend of a friend who knows somebody...
Its not hard to build a legal performance car... but requires some thinking first.. and thats what stops a lot of people!
you boys are missing the point entirely.
I'm talking about the police attitude when dealing with enthusiasts, such as acting like *swear filters own me*, and talking to you with the verbal equivalent of taking a shit on your foot.
this threads purpose has nothing to do with adr's, it's abusive police tactics that are under discussion.
Edited by Nemesis, 03 June 2009 - 09:13 PM.
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